Product & Innovation Leader · Milan, Italy

Carlo Alberto
Degli Atti

The best technology is the kind you don’t see.

Nearly 30 years in tech: Product Lead at PagoPA, after co-founding and leading five companies across Italy and the United States. A computer scientist who still builds hands-on — AI agents, local-first computer-vision tools, and research into giving machines a sense of self.

Years in tech
~30
Companies co-founded
5
Years at PagoPA
5+
Portrait of Carlo Alberto Degli Atti

01 About

I’ve lived several professional lives — and every one of them started with a leap.

I founded my first company, Information Delivery Systems, while I was still at university. Then I grew Concept in Milan for over a decade, turning consulting into software products. Then I left the comfort zone of the place I was born and raised and moved to San Francisco, where I launched and led Opinionage and Thingle.me as CEO — raising capital, building teams and shipping products on both sides of the Atlantic.

Along the way I was featured in Starting-Up in America (2011), a documentary by Tarik Ansari and Basil Glew-Galloway on the challenges international entrepreneurs face with US immigration to build their companies in Silicon Valley.

In 2021 I made another leap — from entrepreneur to intrapreneur — joining PagoPA’s Strategic Innovation department. Today I’m Product Lead at PagoPA, the state-owned company behind Italy’s public digital payments and services platforms.

What ties it together: I’ve been building things since I wired a brake light onto my bicycle at ten, and every change of skin has made me a lifelong learner. I’m fascinated by cognitive science — Hofstadter and Dennett in particular — and I stay close to the code, because that’s where good product judgment comes from.

02 Experience

  1. 2023 — now

    Product Lead

    PagoPA S.p.A. · Milan

  2. 2021 — 2023

    Senior Product Manager

    PagoPA S.p.A. · Milan

  3. 2020 — 2021

    Senior Product Manager

    HELLO Mobility · Milan

  4. 2019 — 2020

    Co-Founder

    International STEM Awards · Milan

  5. 2015 — 2019

    CEO & Co-Founder

    Thingle.me · San Francisco

  6. 2014

    Chief Technology Officer

    Styloola · Milan

  7. 2011 — 2015

    CEO & Co-Founder

    Opinionage Inc. · San Francisco

  8. 2000 — 2011

    CEO & Co-Founder

    Concept srl · Milan

  9. 1997 — 2000

    CEO & Co-Founder

    Information Delivery Systems S.r.l. · Milan

03 What I’m building

Side projects where I keep my hands on the keyboard.

research

Artificial valence

An architecture for projection-grounded AI: a self-model that makes outcomes matter to the machine, made falsifiable on a real robot testbed.

ai agents

Lurch Home

An open-source, privacy-first smart butler and my playground for agentic AI: tool-use protocols, memory, safety and evaluation under real-world constraints.

lurchhome →

ai & cognition

Neurosymbolic thinking

Where neural perception meets symbolic reasoning — exploring emergence, analogy and abstraction through the lens of cognitive science.

computer vision

Local-first vision tools

CLIP- and ArcFace-based tools to organise photo archives entirely on-device: no cloud, no thresholds pretending to be certainty.

security

Paper-grade backups

Practical cryptography for the things that must outlive laptops, disks and accounts — keys and secrets that survive on paper.

05 Education

  • MSc, Computer Science — Università degli Studi di Milano
  • Product Management — Stanford Online (XPROD110, XPROD210, XPROD115), 2025–2026
  • Deep Learning Specialization — Coursera / deeplearning.ai, 2018

Italian · English · French

06 Let’s talk

Open to conversations about product leadership, innovation and applied AI.